Brazil Flight Information!!

[deedee1]

Hi all,

Oh dear-stummbled across this article today!!
I know its a year old- but Im sure it still applies!!

First choice planning new flight routes FROM GLASGOW to brazil for 2009!!

Dont know any soecifics yet as in whether they will fly to natal or somewhere else in brazil- but nevertheless it another flight or route planned!!

First Choice plan Glasgow Airport - Brazil flights
06.05.06

Flights from Scotland to Brazil and Costa Rica are planned by the first British airline to order a revolutionary new long-haul aircraft.
First Choice Airways told The Scotsman that the Boeing 787 Dreamliner will make direct links from Glasgow to Central and South America viable when it enters service in 2009.


Flyglobespan also plans to buy the planes for Scottish flights to South Africa and Australia, but there is now a waiting list until 2012.
Boeing said the aircraft, which will have 210-420 seats, burn up to 30 per cent less fuel and cause 60 per cent less noise than similar-sized planes. They can fly as far and as fast as most larger aircraft.


The 787 is the first passenger jet to be built of carbon-based materials, enabling Boeing to create a more spacious cabin with larger windows and improved air pressure, which it said would reduce passenger fatigue.
Chris Browne, the managing director of First Choice, which currently flies as far as Florida and Mexico from Glasgow, said the 787 would enable it to fly further, faster and cheaper. She said: "The aircraft could give us a competitive edge, since people spend two days of their holidays in a plane."


Kenny Kemp, the author of Flight of the Titans, about the 787's battle against Airbus' A380 superjumbo, said the 787's extra comfort should help passengers cope with longer flights.
He said: "The Dreamliner is going to be an amazing plane, but it will be down to what the airlines put into them."

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See ya D

HAPPY HUNTING!!

[Golfingworld]

Dee, must admit that's a good one. One minor detail, as from late 2007 First Choice are actually owned by TUI/Thomson. First Choice have avoided Natal so far and gone to Costa del Sauipe near Salvador....only 600 miles away! Yes Thomson have got a lot of 787's on order too, but if you read the merger prospectus it doesn't exactly say that their main objective is to fly people to Brazil on the cheap, so they can fill somebody else's accommodation. But, it is true enough to say that the 787 is innovative and reduces the cost for long haul. Please bring forward my boom from 2020 to 2018.

[giraffe]

hello everyone, i'm a new member looking to make my first overseas investment and hoping to gain some advice/info. i've been researching areas for about 4 months, and seem to be going around in circles. after reading golfingworld posts, i am feeling less than confident in brazil, and keep getting drawn back to egypt. i would like to ask golfingworld, as he seems rather knowledgeable, as to where he believes the less risky opportunities lie right now. i would like my first investment to give me a holiday home for a few weeks each year, and enjoy diving, hence Egypt (not Sharm, or central Hurghada). (is this now in the wrong forum?!)
would appreciate any input/advice, thanks

[beenthere]

Originally Posted by giraffe

hello everyone, i'm a new member looking to make my first overseas investment and hoping to gain some advice/info. i've been researching areas for about 4 months, and seem to be going around in circles. after reading golfingworld posts, i am feeling less than confident in brazil, and keep getting drawn back to egypt. i would like to ask golfingworld, as he seems rather knowledgeable, as to where he believes the less risky opportunities lie right now. i would like my first investment to give me a holiday home for a few weeks each year, and enjoy diving, hence Egypt (not Sharm, or central Hurghada). (is this now in the wrong forum?!)
would appreciate any input/advice, thanks

Wow, golfingworld has managed to pull the wool over a few peoples eyes.

Have a good look at his posts and you will notice that whenever he says something and someone else refutes it, he doesn't admit he is wrong, he just moves on to the next negative point he can think of, or else waits a while and then starts making the same claims again. The guy is full of ****.

[Golfingworld]

Originally Posted by giraffe

hello everyone, i'm a new member looking to make my first overseas investment and hoping to gain some advice/info. i've been researching areas for about 4 months, and seem to be going around in circles. after reading golfingworld posts, i am feeling less than confident in brazil, and keep getting drawn back to egypt. i would like to ask golfingworld, as he seems rather knowledgeable, as to where he believes the less risky opportunities lie right now. i would like my first investment to give me a holiday home for a few weeks each year, and enjoy diving, hence Egypt (not Sharm, or central Hurghada). (is this now in the wrong forum?!)
would appreciate any input/advice, thanks

Hi Giraffe and thanks for the flattery. Not sure how many tall stories I'd need to be to pull the wool over a giraffe's eyes! This is a flight thread so let's start there. See where you can go regularly, cheap and easily. That is not Brazil, at the moment! Might be in years to come, but that's the debate we are all having. If it was me...I wouldn't buy anywhere initially...I'd go to where I like and rent a place for 2/3 times and really get a feel for the place. I certainly wouldn't look at a computer generated image and think "that looks nice"! Then, if you find a place..go and look at the plot of land, see if it has any foundations in and how it relates relative to the beach etc etc. Once you've done that, make a decison. If the boom passes you by, put it down to experience and take salvation in the fact that nobody makes easy money as if they did, none of us would need to work!

[Golfingworld]

Originally Posted by beenthere

Wow, golfingworld has managed to pull the wool over a few peoples eyes.

Have a good look at his posts and you will notice that whenever he says something and someone else refutes it, he doesn't admit he is wrong, he just moves on to the next negative point he can think of, or else waits a while and then starts making the same claims again. The guy is full of ****.

My friend, do you know what condom is in Portuguese? "Camisinha" which also means tee-shirt.....gives a whole new meaning to "BEENTHERE, done it, got the tee shirt"!

[nickohorny]

Hi Giraffe, I am basically in the same positiion as you, I have been looking for a good while with my girlfriend, we essentially wanted to buy Morocco within one of the new King Azur project resorts - (which might i add can basically have the same argument about flights as there is on here about Natal) I wanted to buy there, and actually did place a reservation down, only to stop, put a foot back and pull out as i realised i just couldnt afford the 70k off plan asking price. So I opted for Brazil myself.

It is very difficult to weigh up alot of the arguments and discussions on the forums, I do not attack golfingworld - as i have stated before, I think it is a good thing to feel the negative vibe at times, because if plans may go wrong, well you have not lived on false hope. I do however, believe Brazil to be a fantastic opportunity and the negatives have not changed my thoughts really. I believe things will change over there. In time. It is very easy to get sucked into the positives from someone and at the same time follow someone on the negative side. There is an investor - who I watch his posts colsely on another forum - he is very clever and knowledgeable jsut like Golfingworld - a very respected investor who in alot of peoples opinions has never made a foot wrong basically. He has just bought around 4 plots of land N E Brazil - however it took him a while - he did not first believe in the place, now he has.

My point is at the same time of following someone who can worry you about alot on your investment, there are also people and investors who can tell you a different story.

Its down to personal belief and choice at the end of the day!

All the best!
Hopefully see you on the hammock!

[beenthere]

Originally Posted by Golfingworld

My friend, do you know what condom is in Portuguese? "Camisinha" which also means tee-shirt.....gives a whole new meaning to "BEENTHERE, done it, got the tee shirt"!

More classic golf dork, you just fall apart when the going gets tough and people stop believing the crud you spout .....

[deedee1]

Hi Giraffe and welcome to the forum- nice to have another on board!!

At the end of the day we all have choices, differences of opinions and different preferances- thats what it boils down to at the end of the day!!

Brazil is in the very early stages of a boom this year and thats why some are uncertain as it in the process of going through alot of changes!!

These are no more or no less than aother countries have had to overcome in the past!

There are issues that will change with time- but that is the risk you have to take if you want to get it early!!

Its up to you to research and analyse what is happening in brazil at the moment and what their long term plan and structure is so you can make an informed decision and go with your gut feeling and understanding!!

There are some who will always be positive and those who are negative about things thats the way of life!

But you need to determine the best route for you and how much risk you are prepared to take and be aware of anything that could or could not go pearshaped in the future!!

The reasons for risk is thats an emerging market- so you would be buying into a growing and establishing market- whereas a mature market is more stable and established but these countries command HIGHER PRICES and less opportunity for growth and rental!!

Alot of posts and information on here are "HE SAID, SHE SAID" So you need to look at information that are facts and not speculation- read lots of articles and do research on whats happening in brazils economy and their plans for the future- DO NOT JUST READ PROPERTY AGENTS ARTICLES!
Dont believe everything you are told or lead to believe- dig deep for the truth!!

Take care- D

[giraffe]

Originally Posted by beenthere

Wow, golfingworld has managed to pull the wool over a few peoples eyes.

Have a good look at his posts and you will notice that whenever he says something and someone else refutes it, he doesn't admit he is wrong, he just moves on to the next negative point he can think of, or else waits a while and then starts making the same claims again. The guy is full of ****.

hi...thanks for the replies....beenthere.- i have read his posts, and agree with you to a certain degree, but don't think he is full of ****, he has opened my eyes to a few areas where my research would have been inadequate, which from someone who can be negative..is positive!

nickhorny...i agree about conflicting opinions etc., i have experienced this quite a bit already from different agents. good you are positive about brazil, hope it comes off for you....by chance, i'm wondering if the guy who bought 4 plots of land in NE brazil bought in Canoa Beach, 4 plots for the price of 3...i have briefly considered one of these plots, but sounds like a lot of hassle for a novice maybe.

golfingworld...thanks for advice, will take it onboard.