Brazil Flight Information!!

[Golfingworld]

Originally Posted by PAUL-brasil

Yep thought i had the chunk of it, not heard of white air, Air madrid and Aer Europe unless they recently added them on i thought only did the S P and Rio along with BA & Air France & Tam. Cape Verde i not sure but thought it always did a stop in Sal Island first from Lisborn before going onto to Brazil, so ill look into these again sometime, but dont worry i certainly wont fly with them.

Yeah i knoew what you mean with Thomson, when i first flew with them 2 year ago i paid £265, then £320 2nd then £380 a year ago and now ive paid £430 to go in 3weeks. They do play about with their prices daily and now its very hard to get 3weeks out of the flights only, but you can still get them on some odd random weeks long ahead for some reason!

Yes I tried 4 weeks with Thomson and it said return not available, so I opened another window and booked the outbound the week before..and all of a sudden it was! They have the market to themselves at present and will milk it. The 787 will make a difference but allow 2 years. Problem is there is no commercial traffic into Natal unless they can get internal traffic rights...NE Brazil has to be put on the radar and only way to do that is for Developers and Agents to do some proper pr with airlines and media.

[mitico67]

few info on flight
Image- GOL: GOL and Air France signed an interline agreement. GOL already signed a similar agreement with Aerolineas Argentinas, Continental Airlines, Delta Airlines and VARIG;

- OCEAN AIR: Ocean Air is due to start its second international flight, this time to Luanda, Capital of Angola;

- TAM BRAZILIAN AIRLINES: TAM announced that it will anticipate to December 21st the launching of its daily flight (Airbus 330) to Madrid. The flight is due to depart from the International Airport of Guarulhos at 19:10 hrs and will arrive in Madrid at 08:05 hrs the following day. The flight from Madrid will depart at 10:55 hrs and arrive in Guarulhos at 18:35 hrs. November 30th TAM will start its new daily flight to Frankfurt;

- VARIG BRAZILIAN AILINES: VARIG signed interline agreements with Air France, El Al (Israel), Malev (Hungary), Qatar Airways (Qatar), Hahna Air (Germany), Mexicana (Mexico) and Air One (Italy). Today VARIG operates 120 daily flights to 13 destinations within Brazil and 20 daily flights to International destinations;

- WEBJET: The Brazilian airline Webjet announced that it will enlarge its fleet to 10 aircrafts till 2009. Beside its plans to fly to Maceió and Recife, Webjet plans to operate commercial flights to South America (Webjet already is authorized to fly charter flights to South America). In order to back its strategic planning, Webjet is planning to open eight new sales offices till January 2008. The new offices will be in the airports of Fortaleza, Natal, Recife, Porto Seguro, Ilhéus, Maceió, Guarulhos and Campinas;

- TAP AIR PORTUGAL: TAP made public that it will launch, next February, its eighth Brazilian destination: BELO HORIZONTE. Further, also in February 2008, TAP will add a 6th weekly flight to Brasília;

- IBERIA: Iberia announced that not later than December it has plans to operate, in partnership with Iberoworld, a weekly flight (Airbus 300-330) to Salvador, Capital of the State of Bahia. It will be the first flight of the Spanish airline to the Brazilian Northeast. IBERIA operates three daily flights to Brazil (2 to São Paulo and 1 to Rio de Janeiro);

- AIR EUROPA: the Spanish airline is considering operating two extra weekly flights between Madrid and Salvador. At the moment Air Europe flies 4 times per week to Salvador (Airbus 330-200) and to Rio de Janeiro (Boeing 767-300).

[mitico67]

few info on flights
Image- GOL: GOL and Air France signed an interline agreement. GOL already signed a similar agreement with Aerolineas Argentinas, Continental Airlines, Delta Airlines and VARIG;

- OCEAN AIR: Ocean Air is due to start its second international flight, this time to Luanda, Capital of Angola;

- TAM BRAZILIAN AIRLINES: TAM announced that it will anticipate to December 21st the launching of its daily flight (Airbus 330) to Madrid. The flight is due to depart from the International Airport of Guarulhos at 19:10 hrs and will arrive in Madrid at 08:05 hrs the following day. The flight from Madrid will depart at 10:55 hrs and arrive in Guarulhos at 18:35 hrs. November 30th TAM will start its new daily flight to Frankfurt;

- VARIG BRAZILIAN AILINES: VARIG signed interline agreements with Air France, El Al (Israel), Malev (Hungary), Qatar Airways (Qatar), Hahna Air (Germany), Mexicana (Mexico) and Air One (Italy). Today VARIG operates 120 daily flights to 13 destinations within Brazil and 20 daily flights to International destinations;

- WEBJET: The Brazilian airline Webjet announced that it will enlarge its fleet to 10 aircrafts till 2009. Beside its plans to fly to Maceió and Recife, Webjet plans to operate commercial flights to South America (Webjet already is authorized to fly charter flights to South America). In order to back its strategic planning, Webjet is planning to open eight new sales offices till January 2008. The new offices will be in the airports of Fortaleza, Natal, Recife, Porto Seguro, Ilhéus, Maceió, Guarulhos and Campinas;

- TAP AIR PORTUGAL: TAP made public that it will launch, next February, its eighth Brazilian destination: BELO HORIZONTE. Further, also in February 2008, TAP will add a 6th weekly flight to Brasília;

- IBERIA: Iberia announced that not later than December it has plans to operate, in partnership with Iberoworld, a weekly flight (Airbus 300-330) to Salvador, Capital of the State of Bahia. It will be the first flight of the Spanish airline to the Brazilian Northeast. IBERIA operates three daily flights to Brazil (2 to São Paulo and 1 to Rio de Janeiro);

- AIR EUROPA: the Spanish airline is considering operating two extra weekly flights between Madrid and Salvador. At the moment Air Europe flies 4 times per week to Salvador (Airbus 330-200) and to Rio de Janeiro (Boeing 767-300).

[Golfingworld]

Interesting stuff, a distinct absence of NE Brazil, Natal/Fortaleza. Everything still goes to Rio/SP but Salvador is appearing..good news for those developing near Praia do Forte. Somehow one airline needs to make Natal a stop off point but I don't think they want that nor do the Brazilian Govt so it seems. Unless this attitude is changed there will be no boom in the NE. Over to you Agents and Developers, start selling your alleged boom to Airlines and Govt's then you might see an appreciation in prices that you are promising.

[deedee1]

Hi all,

LONG TIME NO SPEAK TO BUT JUST FOUND THIS " ONE OF MANY VERY INTERESTING ARTICLES " ON FLIGHTS TO COME TO NATAL DUE TO THE WORLD CUP!!!

http://www.charterflights.co.uk/brazil_news_story/Flights-to-Natal-'will-surge-with-Brazil's-World-Cup-cash'-$18341353.html

HAPPY READING!

TAKE CARE-D

[michaelbush]

Originally Posted by deedee1

Hi all,

LONG TIME NO SPEAK TO BUT JUST FOUND THIS " ONE OF MANY VERY INTERESTING ARTICLES " ON FLIGHTS TO COME TO NATAL DUE TO THE WORLD CUP!!!

http://www.charterflights.co.uk/brazil_news_story/Flights-to-Natal-'will-surge-with-Brazil's-World-Cup-cash'-$18341353.html

HAPPY READING!

TAKE CARE-D

I hope there will be other airlines like Virgin getting in on the act. This charter info is great for those that come to holiday with First Choice (Salvador) and Thomsons (Natal) but for others who spend more time here it still remains difficult to get cheap flights to Europe, other than for short stay.

[michaelbush]

Just to let you all know if it has nit yet hit the news in Europe- BRA one of Brasil's internal airlines has jsut gone bust in a big way leaving passengers stranded. No money to even pay the fuel! All planes are grounded. They have been used a lot for internal connecting flights along with GOL. I understand that Varig are back in business, however only flying to the south with connections to fly back up north!- Journey times up to around 28hrs to get to Recife!

[JMBroad]

Originally Posted by michaelbush

Just to let you all know if it has nit yet hit the news in Europe- BRA one of Brasil's internal airlines has jsut gone bust in a big way leaving passengers stranded. No money to even pay the fuel! All planes are grounded. They have been used a lot for internal connecting flights along with GOL. I understand that Varig are back in business, however only flying to the south with connections to fly back up north!- Journey times up to around 28hrs to get to Recife!

They are still discussing with banks from what I understand but they are in dire straits and all flights from yesterday on with the Airline were cancelled. Although they are giving out mixed signals. They told all their staff to prepare to be laid off (around 1 thousand staff) permanently however they told the media that nothing was final.

Oh and no, don't think it hit the European news yet.

[michaelbush]

Originally Posted by JMBroad

They are still discussing with banks from what I understand but they are in dire straits and all flights from yesterday on with the Airline were cancelled. Although they are giving out mixed signals. They told all their staff to prepare to be laid off (around 1 thousand staff) permanently however they told the media that nothing was final.

Oh and no, don't think it hit the European news yet.

Saw the interview with the vice president of BRA- the staff have not been paid for October. He was asked if the company had any cash to pay them and for fuel etc. his reply was "today-no". It is very difficult to rescue a company that has got so far into debt. look how long it took for Varig to come back. Bet everything is on leases and the planes will not leave the ground under BRA again.

[beenthere]

Fortunately BRA only have 10 planes and aren't a major operator like Varig was. So it will probably just mean that GOL, which is doing well, will go and buy more planes.