Brazil Flight Information!!

[robh]

Originally Posted by Dotty

Hi Rob,

The few international flights would be relatively full, as there are so few flights to get you here in the 1st place !Now if the demand was there you would see plenty of Inter flights coming in. The options are go half way around the world to get here.As for tks there is nt a competative demand for them so the prices do go up and that is not just for here ,but worldwide too.

Dotty,

You are ignoring the fundamentals of economics,

large demand and small supply = high prices
small demand and large supply = low prices

What you should be saying is there is not enough competition to lower the prices, but as JM was saying Natal airport is at capacity now, so there is no scope for letting more competition in, or at least not enough to affect the price of flights significantly.

Why do you think I can fly London to Sydney for a similar price as London to Natal, there are just loads more possibilities to get to Sydney.

[Dotty]

If the demand is there then would be more flights going into Natal .Can you fly direct to Natal from the UK instead of spending 24 hrs to get here,no!The price is high because there are so few options to get to it .I am not sure how long you have lived in Natal,but the figures from overseas visitors is down.We having been discussing the flight issues on this thread continously and if you read the several previously you will be able to read about the difficulties of here.

My tickets on a July flight that are booked with Tap cost 7,700 reais.The connection between Lisbon and Heathrow has plenty of seats available,and you will have to agree that Tap is the most comfortable of the other 1 option of getting here as the connection has less waiting time,but the fundemental economics would be demand is there,more flights available,cheaper prices,fewer flights available,higher prices!!

What is need if the demand is there would be cheap direct flight options,but right now there are nt any .

Originally Posted by robh

Dotty,

You are ignoring the fundamentals of economics,

large demand and small supply = high prices
small demand and large supply = low prices

What you should be saying is there is not enough competition to lower the prices, but as JM was saying Natal airport is at capacity now, so there is no scope for letting more competition in, or at least not enough to affect the price of flights significantly.

Why do you think I can fly London to Sydney for a similar price as London to Natal, there are just loads more possibilities to get to Sydney.

[robh]

Originally Posted by Dotty

If the demand is there then would be more flights going into Natal .Can you fly direct to Natal from the UK instead of spending 24 hrs to get here,no!The price is high because there are so few options to get to it .I am not sure how long you have lived in Natal,but the figures from overseas visitors is down.We having been discussing the flight issues on this thread continously and if you read the several previously you will be able to read about the difficulties of here.

My tickets on a July flight that are booked with Tap cost 7,700 reais.The connection between Lisbon and Heathrow has plenty of seats available,and you will have to agree that Tap is the most comfortable of the other 1 option of getting here as the connection has less waiting time,but the fundemental economics would be demand is there,more flights available,cheaper prices,fewer flights available,higher prices!!

What is need if the demand is there would be cheap direct flight options,but right now there are nt any .

Refer to my previous post for the answer to what you have written here......

[robh]

Originally Posted by robh

Refer to my previous post for the answer to what you have written here.......

Also domestic travel numbers to Natal are up greatly which means more capacity is used at the airport leaving even less free capacity for international flights.

[Golfingworld]

You are ignoring the fundamentals of economics,

large demand and small supply = high prices
small demand and large supply = low prices

If this economic theory is correct, why do Off Plan Property sellers increase prices when the demand is not there?

[robh]

Originally Posted by Golfingworld

You are ignoring the fundamentals of economics,

large demand and small supply = high prices
small demand and large supply = low prices

If this economic theory is correct, why do Off Plan Property sellers increase prices when the demand is not there?

Examples please

[Golfingworld]

Rob, is this another one of your hair-brained economic theories like Hotels holding Forex will cause the Reis to drop against other currencies?

Go and look up "cartel" in the dictionary. When and if there is allegedly a "cartel" operating, be it in the airline industry or any other for that matter, key economic fundamentals do not apply! Of course I am not claiming that there is an airline cartel operating to Brazil, but as allegedly routes and traffic rights might be restricted by statute, a free economy and such pricing theories may not apply. One method in any business to enhance price, margin and sales could be to artificially restrict supply. Of course there could also be a strategy in certain businesses to artificially inflate the prices of an asset, so as to give the impression that market prices are increasing and hence showing an artificial profit for the early purchasers of those assets. But something like that concept might not be relevant on here, would it?

Examples, find me an offplan property offer anywhere that says "the next phase will be 20% less than this one, so buy now before before prices drop any further"

[robh]

Originally Posted by Golfingworld

Rob, is this another one of your hair-brained economic theories like Hotels holding Forex will cause the Reis to drop against other currencies?

Go and look up "cartel" in the dictionary. When and if there is allegedly a "cartel" operating, be it in the airline industry or any other for that matter, key economic fundamentals do not apply! Of course I am not claiming that there is an airline cartel operating to Brazil, but as allegedly routes and traffic rights might be restricted by statute, a free economy and such pricing theories may not apply. One method in any business to enhance price, margin and sales could be to artificially restrict supply. Of course there could also be a strategy in certain businesses to artificially inflate the prices of an asset, so as to give the impression that market prices are increasing and hence showing an artificial profit for the early purchasers of those assets. But smething like that might not be relevant on here, would it?

I knew you wouldn't or couldn't provide any examples.

[Golfingworld]

Rob, give Adam Smith a call, he might give you a few!

[robh]

Originally Posted by Golfingworld

Examples, find me an offplan property offer anywhere that says "the next phase will be 20% less than this one, so buy now before before prices drop any further"

That isn't an example and you know it.