Coral Beach Brazil

[Simon Eaton]

oh this is fantastic, everyone talking when nobody knows.

better than eastenders!!!

right, you are correct in your post - almost wolfgang.

Coral Beach is 8km NORTH of coconut grove!!!

I feel good that I have followed my own decision than listening to others, when you really do not know.

I do not mean to cause offence, but how dare you go online to mis inform people?

Sarah, I wish you all the best! Do your own research, have you found everything is ok?

JMBroad maybe you could shed some light, I have found your information actually quite honest, and although you are an agent, I know the company that you work for *market leaders and nothing to gain from going either way* and I am also aware you do not sell this project, although you have heard of it.

I feel the need to protect the project that I have bought into, as my long term investment means I will want to sell one day. With people commenting negatively it means that my investment becomes weaker, therefore a**h**** who decide negative is easier than positive can leave their comments for what they know about.. or nothing.. or one and the same.

[Simon Eaton]

Flexeiras is a popular name obviously. After studying google earth, look for Trairi, this is the nearest town to Flexeiras, or Flecheiras. There are many different spellings.

There is one where you said wolfgang, but that is not where coral beach is. I do know why you would think so. After typing Flexeiras Brazil into google!!! Coral Beach comes up first, and that link says Alogoas, but that is there error.

There is also another Flexeiras 2 and more hours north of fortaleza. I do not know if that is in Ceara though.

Guys, I totally understand the confusions, but please find out before you comment. I find this is best done with real homework, not googling everything. You have misled yourselves and are now misleading the public, that is against the rules of this forum!

[michaelbush]

Simon - I like your enthusiasm but it appears you have not personally visited the site. Correct me if I am wrong but the definition of "beachfront" would be that you walk out of your land directly onto the beach, ie your boundary will be right on the beach. "Access" to the beach does not describe "beachfront". If you would like to post the site plan and a google map of the area, I am sure you will find it helpful to get useful responses. Of course here in Brasil names of places and even developments get duplicated all the time, so confusion can be common. I am sure nobody here wants to be negative for the wrong reasons, only helpful in protecting people from the numerous scams designed only to sell at highly inflated prices while the sales pitch leaves the client believing he is sitting on a potentially lucrative investment, when in fact the profits are with the selling company for a very long time.

[Simon Eaton]

Originally Posted by michaelbush

Simon - I like your enthusiasm but it appears you have not personally visited the site. Correct me if I am wrong but the definition of "beachfront" would be that you walk out of your land directly onto the beach, ie your boundary will be right on the beach. "Access" to the beach does not describe "beachfront". If you would like to post the site plan and a google map of the area, I am sure you will find it helpful to get useful responses. Of course here in Brasil names of places and even developments get duplicated all the time, so confusion can be common. I am sure nobody here wants to be negative for the wrong reasons, only helpful in protecting people from the numerous scams designed only to sell at highly inflated prices while the sales pitch leaves the client believing he is sitting on a potentially lucrative investment, when in fact the profits are with the selling company for a very long time.

I find advice is best offered from people that know, not people that think they do. If the people to "protect us" from these scams do not know, then truthfuly, how can they comment. The point is they shouldnt.

Beachfront means the development is on the beach, or is beach front. Well done, you understood the beach part, and the front part.

The development is front line, but it also goes 2.6 km back onto the lagoon of trairi which is 4km wide. To the south, and south east is the source which prevents access, however access therefore is through trairi, hence the 50 mins to an hour, as opposed to shorter travel time.

I am sure you will agree, the 4 lines above are more useful than pages of garbage from people who have a "need" to voice an oppinion, right or rong.

The dig was not at you, or any1. Rather the concept of trying to help this lady, when nobody knows.

Instead of asking me to post those documents, why do you not research yourself? The area on google can be found by typing in Trairi to google earth, and trairi ceara. The area on the right or east of there you will see virgin land and a lagoon than begins within the town. This lagoon has a road clearly visible, this is the access point.

Thanks for your time.

[PAUL-brasil]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Hmm.....Confusion and misinformation certainly abounds here. Perhaps i can offer some assistance as everyone is talking at total cross purposes.

To begin with there are TWO Flexeiras.

One is approx 1 hour NORTH of Fortaleza in Ceara which is where the Coconut Grove development will be.
The other Flexeiras is in Alagoas which is approx a two hour drive SOUTH of Recife near Maceio and this is where Coral Beach Resort will be.

Paul your compass is way off i'm sorry to say. Neither Flexeiras is anywhere near Aracati which is approx one hour and a half SOUTH of Fortaleza.

Hope that clarifies and helps those that are considering a purchase with the geography of N.E Brazil.

Thank you for the correction Wolfgang, I stand corrected as I did have my head in a pickle (the pitfall of waking up from working through the nights for a week) obviously of when i past the sign for Flexeiras obviously NOT when i went to Acarati which is the town by Canoa to the south like you said.

The time passing Flexeiras (from the north of Fortaleza) did take nearer 2 hours though that was going back vai the cost road from Cumbuco not the new highway from the back of the city.

Sorry for that confusion!

[PAUL-brasil]

Originally Posted by Simon Eaton

I find advice is best offered from people that know, not people that think they do. If the people to "protect us" from these scams do not know, then truthfuly, how can they comment. The point is they shouldnt.

Beachfront means the development is on the beach, or is beach front. Well done, you understood the beach part, and the front part.

The development is front line, but it also goes 2.6 km back onto the lagoon of trairi which is 4km wide. To the south, and south east is the source which prevents access, however access therefore is through trairi, hence the 50 mins to an hour, as opposed to shorter travel time.

I am sure you will agree, the 4 lines above are more useful than pages of garbage from people who have a "need" to voice an oppinion, right or rong.

The dig was not at you, or any1. Rather the concept of trying to help this lady, when nobody knows.

Instead of asking me to post those documents, why do you not research yourself? The area on google can be found by typing in Trairi to google earth, and trairi ceara. The area on the right or east of there you will see virgin land and a lagoon than begins within the town. This lagoon has a road clearly visible, this is the access point.

Thanks for your time.

Simon, Jesus man dont get upset, I was simply trying to add infomation because i believe it to be true, its an opinion which is what a forum is mainly about. How does me saying that I think its nearer to 2 hours attack your investment, I dont know anything more about your development I stated that, i wouldnt dream of misleading people about a development. I looked at the distances what is listed on one of my map and it said Flexeiras 140KM, sorry that i wrote that down, but is just sharing information. I am talking about the same place by Trairi, I had now just put in Flexeiras and some of the non real estate websites for Flexeiras by Trairi do state the distance are the ranged from 120KM and 148KM like i stated.

I was just trying make someone aware that I think it would take much longer to travel there from fortaleza than her website stated because i have travelled by there, and have seen many real estate companies mislead with distances, i was just trying to help, not attack a development or cause anybody to get upset. I do wish I hadnt of bothered now, I live and learn and wont try help again help again. But atleast this would made lady check the distances herself, and i guess you ll find out when you actually travel there yourself.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by PAUL-brasil

Thank you for the correction Wolfgang, I stand corrected as I did have my head in a pickle (the pitfall of waking up from working through the nights for a week) obviously of when i past the sign for Flexeiras obviously NOT when i went to Acarati which is the town by Canoa to the south like you said.

The time passing Flexeiras (from the north of Fortaleza) did take nearer 2 hours though that was going back vai the cost road from Cumbuco not the new highway from the back of the city.

Sorry for that confusion!

No worries Paul.
The irony is that your estimate of the time taken to get to Flexeiras is probably quite accurate in reality.The quality of the road surface North of Fortaleza is appalling so add 30 minutes to change your tyre or alternatively crawl along at 30mph and you are not far out!
Outside daylight hours it is even more dangerous as you cannot see where the potholes are.I had to stay the night in a local pousada and resume ny journey the next day.

[JMBroad]

Originally Posted by Simon Eaton

JMBroad maybe you could shed some light, I have found your information actually quite honest, and although you are an agent, I know the company that you work for *market leaders and nothing to gain from going either way* and I am also aware you do not sell this project, although you have heard of it.

Coral Beach is located on Fleixeiras (as mentioned earlier there are different spellings.) This is located just outside Trairi, which is +/- 90 kms (as the crow flies) North-West of Fortaleza. The development does border the beach although like almost every loteamento, the thin part is on the beach and then stretches back inland. The back of the plot borders a lake and plans are to build leisure facilities on the lake. Prices are competitive to other loteamento developments in the area.

According to the developer, it will take around 1 hour to reach the location from Fortaleza if you take the normal roads, under an hour if you beach buggy it. According to the competition (developers selling their own developments so biased against the development) - it currently takes over an hour because the last part of the roads aren't finished yet.

The legal checks are still ongoing so no, we aren't selling it - therefore we also haven't been out there to stand on the plot and see for ourself.

[sarah nash]

wow, tensions are high.

Well first of all, after doing my own research and listening to everybody here, there are some truths from everyone.

Paul, thank you for your help. There are several flexeiras located in this area, and Trairi is the best judge of distance to avoid confusion.

The miles on the highway is far less than that though, like you said Simon.

Basically fortaleza airport is outside of the city anyway, which of course decreases travel time as it is north (ish) from the city.

1 hour is a very respectable time. I have friends who have been there which is why I am looking at brazil. They told me that although they havent been to trairi or flexeiras specifically, they have been to areas north of there, and this is the through route to get elsewhere when travelling North from Fortaleza.

This excites me as it is obviously a popular route!

I think wolfgang that you should stop travelling or visiting brazil, it is obviously not for you. I am sorry that darkness scared you on the roads, I am sure they will be improved as they get used more.

I am finishing off reading this report that I have been given, I would then like to ask a couple more questions.

Thank you all very much for your help, lets try to stay friendly though.

Please also read the original question, it had NOTHING TO DO with what any of you are saying, I think you should start a new page, my original question was is completing in 28 days possible, although I have been given a 2 week extension.

Please may someone answer my original question, rather than inform me of distances that I am already aware of!

Like you say Simon, google earth is a useful tool!

Many thanks all!

[sarah nash]

JM Broad, I have just read your post.

That is very good and precise, the roads will improve. My friends are working for a bio company and are in Brazil twice every 3 months. They have been touring the areas. They are also involved in commodities and due to tax benefits are moving to Brazil. This has inspired me to buy there.

I am looking at taking 3 to 5 units.

Please take note of my points above, maybe you could help me with that. Is it reasonable to complete, willy ou sell this if you are happy with everything?

Also, the airport is North of the city, so airport to Coral Beach is less than city to Coral Beach!

Again, cheers.