Jacuma Beach Resort

[robh]

Originally Posted by jiten

Hi Billie,

That is a worrying thought for such a high-profile opportunity.

Their website does state that Grupo Erosten is the parent company. Anyone know anything about them and their history?

I can't find anything on the web, therefore am getting concerned about whether they exist!!

Would love to hear the thoughts of those who have already invested.

Thanks
J.I.T.

Jiten & Billie Jean,

They certainly do exist, we have checked them and the project out and they certainly are not short of money, nor have any money problems, the licensing is in place, but they had to resubmit plans as they changed the location of various service buildings and services to satisfy Sol Melia, hence the delay in the start of construction, this takes about 1 to 3 months (1 month has passed so far).

If you really are worried then PM me your details and I will get the developer to call you direct so you can put your concerns to them. If you can't PM, just submit your details on our contact form on the uv10 site mentioning my name and that you want to talk to the developer of Jacuma.

Regards,
Rob.

My advise...

Be very careful when investing in Brazil. The criminal element is huge, and for many years Brazil is a safe haven for expat criminals; everything from petty theft to murderers. My group was scammed in a rogue land deal near Natal (lost over $100,000.00us). We entrusted in Brasilians; big mistake! Brazilians are very slick people, imaginitive, quick on their feet, savvy, shrewd with great instincts -- they're always thinking of new ways to take from you. There's an ongoing joke in Rio that Bin Laden is living in a Favella because if you pay off all the local punks, they'll protect you, and the Police of course because 75% of Policemen in Brazil are corrupt too. Maybe you think this is hogwash? If so, run a Google check with keyword: "french guys murdered Rio de Janeiro" and read the news links.

I'll invest my hard earned $ in a cave in Afganistan before I invest in Brazil again.

This is my personal opinion, yours may vary........

[robh]

Originally Posted by Raimundo

My advise...

Be very careful when investing in Brazil. The criminal element is huge, and for many years Brazil is a safe haven for expat criminals; everything from petty theft to murderers. My group was scammed in a rogue land deal near Natal (lost over $100,000.00us). We entrusted in Brasilians; big mistake! Brazilians are very slick people, imaginitive, quick on their feet, savvy, shrewd with great instincts -- they're always thinking of new ways to take from you. There's an ongoing joke in Rio that Bin Laden is living in a Favella because if you pay off all the local punks, they'll protect you, and the Police of course because 75% of Policemen in Brazil are corrupt too. Maybe you think this is hogwash? If so, run a Google check with keyword: "french guys murdered Rio de Janeiro" and read the news links.

I'll invest my hard earned $ in a cave in Afganistan before I invest in Brazil again.

This is my personal opinion, yours may vary........

Raimundo,

Brazil stopped being a safe haven for criminals in the 80's.

You must really hate Brazilians with a passion, but to say all Brazilians are criminals is not only misleading but very insulting to them.

Can you describe how you got scammed? I know you said a little about it in other posts but not the details, at the very least it will stop people doing the same thing.

ROBH, I never stated that all Brazilians were bad, in fact most are good simple folks. What I am saying is Brazil (in my opinion) has a high scam/theft rate among foreigners/gringos compared to all other countries in Latin America. That really is all I am saying. The thing is, a lot of you guys here are trying to sell something in Brazil, realestate, servcies, etc. So anything I say about Brazil that might be negative, you and others will naturally not like because I might be effecting your personal income. I've already written about the rogue land scam deal we were involved. Check the archives.

I've lived off and on in Brazil 1999. I am simply telling folks to be very careful.

FCZ- if I were you, I would be very careful with your comments. I have nothing against anyone.

[robh]

Originally Posted by Raimundo

ROBH, I never stated all Brazilians were bad, in fact most are good simple folks. What I am saying is Brazil (in my opinion) has a high scam/ theft rate among foreigners compared to all other countries in Latin America. That is all I am saying here. The thing is, a lot of you guys here trying to sell something in Brazil, realestate, servcies, etc. So anything I say about Brazil that might be negative, you and others will naturally not like because I might be effecting your personal income. I've already written about the rogue land scam deal we were involved. Check the archives.

I been there and done that. I've lived off and on in Brazil 1999. I am simply telling folks to be very careful.

FCZ- if I were you, I would be very careful with your comments. I have nothing against anyone.

Raimundo,

First of all I agree with FCZ's comments I have seen what you write.

Secondly this is what you wrote: "We entrusted in Brasilians; big mistake! Brazilians are very slick people, imaginitive, quick on their feet, savvy, shrewd with great instincts -- they're always thinking of new ways to take from you. " Tell me how any Brazilian is not going to insulted by that.

Somehow I doubt your posts affect my personal income at all but next time you want to tell people to be careful try and do it without insulting a whole country.....

ROBH, I understand...

I should have posted "we entrusted a group of Brazilians".

Brazilians are good people trying to live a life but they will take from you if given the opportunity. Not all of them. but most of them.

This is my personal opinion.

[Dotty]

Raimundo,
i could not agree with you more! Brasilians are actually fantastic people ,but there is also the most corrupt from the cleaner to the President and at times it happens in the property market .Sadly ,and I mean sadly Brasil is run by and thrives on corruption and actually teaches their citizens to be corrupt.This is a fact and hopfully one that will diminish in time. It may be an idea to put your bad experience behind and see that there are also opportunities in Brasil if done with honest people.There was an article by JMBroad (i think it was he??)about what type of brasilian he prefered the one that helps you for free and the one that wants your money,well from my experience the friendship for free is the greatest and when you find these people ,there are many you should sale along nicely .

Originally Posted by Raimundo

ROBH, I never stated all Brazilians were bad, in fact most are good simple folks. What I am saying is Brazil (in my opinion) has a high scam/ theft rate among foreigners compared to all other countries in Latin America. That is all I am saying here. The thing is, a lot of you guys here trying to sell something in Brazil, realestate, servcies, etc. So anything I say about Brazil that might be negative, you and others will naturally not like because I might be effecting your personal income. I've already written about the rogue land scam deal we were involved. Check the archives.

I been there and done that. I've lived off and on in Brazil 1999. I am simply telling folks to be very careful.

FCZ- if I were you, I would be very careful with your comments. I have nothing against anyone.

Originally Posted by Dotty

i could not agree with you more! Brasilians are actually fantastic people ,but there is also the most corrupt from the cleaner to the President and at times it happens in the property market .Sadly ,and I mean sadly Brasil is run by and thrives on corruption and actually teaches their citizens to be corrupt.This is a fact and hopfully one that will diminish in time. It may be an idea to put your bad experience behind and see that there are also opportunities in Brasil if done with honest people.There was an article by JMBroad (i think it was he??)about what type of brasilian he prefered the one that helps you for free and the one that wants your money,well from my experience the friendship for free is the greatest and when you find these people ,there are many you should sale along nicely .

Well said Dotty, and I will follow your advice.

Thanks

[Billie Jean]

Originally Posted by robh

Jiten & Billie Jean,

They certainly do exist, we have checked them and the project out and they certainly are not short of money, nor have any money problems, the licensing is in place, but they had to resubmit plans as they changed the location of various service buildings and services to satisfy Sol Melia, hence the delay in the start of construction, this takes about 1 to 3 months (1 month has passed so far).

If you really are worried then PM me your details and I will get the developer to call you direct so you can put your concerns to them. If you can't PM, just submit your details on our contact form on the uv10 site mentioning my name and that you want to talk to the developer of Jacuma.

Regards,
Rob.

Hello Rob,

Thanks for the offer, I may take it up. But first could you please elaborate on how you 'Checked them out'. In gereral I need to know (via formal documents, not phone conversations) the financial history, profitability, trading reputation, sources of finance of the company, its ultimate owners.

For all we know the top man owning the developer could be a criminal

As an agent that has "Checked them out" you should be able to openly provide this information.

Thanks,
Billie

[Billie Jean]

Originally Posted by Karine

I also have invested in Jacuma Beach Resort.
Is there a site from the developer where you can see the evolution of the plants ?

Hi Karine,

I am also about to invest here.
What information do you have of the developer and the agreement with Sol Melia?

I hope you dug deeper than the press releases and the marketing provided by the agents. This seems the agents are not providing investors with any formal information on this.

Good luck.

Billie.