Average build cost?

[DGS]

Slightly off the thread but if I purchase an existing country (currently inspecting) property and I have the architect produce the drawings would I be allowed to perform the renovations myself and/or oversee the work that was outwith my remit ie project manage what I couldnt do?

Also what is the % of materials to labour in the quoted psm2 construction cost?

Thanks

[Luis Miranda]

Originally Posted by DGS

Slightly off the thread but if I purchase an existing country (currently inspecting) property and I have the architect produce the drawings would I be allowed to perform the renovations myself and/or oversee the work that was outwith my remit ie project manage what I couldnt do?

Also what is the % of materials to labour in the quoted psm2 construction cost?

Thanks

Here in Portugal, it can contract an architect or a designer to make the projects and can contract one or some constructors to construct the house. It can equally follow the workmanship or contract an engineer or an architect. They do not have that to be the same ones. The construction cost (depending on the zone) can go up to around the 750 € m2. (key in the hand).
Beste regards
Luis Miranda

[DGS]

Luis,
Thank you for the answer.
Can you tell me if I am personally allowed to carry out the work? ie... Am i allowed to install kitchens, bathrooms, plumbing, roof repairs or must I use a building contractor?

[Luis Miranda]

Originally Posted by DGS

Luis,
Thank you for the answer.
Can you tell me if I am personally allowed to carry out the work? ie... Am i allowed to install kitchens, bathrooms, plumbing, roof repairs or must I use a building contractor?

You can make everything what to want with its proper hands, the part of electric installation, gas and waters only is that has that to have a project and later sera inspected, (therefore this part has that to be made by specialized staff). If it will be a house to restore, until can demolish the interior walls without asking for licenses. If fôr one house that already has electric installation, gas and waters, also does not need to ask for licenses nor to contract specialized staff and can you yourselves make.
Beste regards
Luis Miranda
luis.miranda@zapp.pt

[DGS]

Luis

Brilliant. Thank you for the speed and clarity of your answer.

Dave

[omostra06]

Depending on the level of work required, you can in some cases carry out all the work yourself, fitting kitchens, bathrooms, painting, new windows, moving interior walls, replacing doors, laying new floors, etc etc.

however if the work required means altering the main structure of the building, new second floor, large extention, etc, then you need to apply for planning permission,

if you are doing repairs to the building that does not alter the look or the construction, method or materials then this work too can be done yourself, if for example you want to replace an old roof with a new one, if you use the same materials (wood and tiles) then its straight forward to do. if yiu change to concrete then you need planning.

if the property has no water or electric connected then you need a project, planning to get them connected. watch out for planning time, it can take one year or more to get a planning project approved, regardless of what some agents, people will tell you. it does take a long time, also dont be tempted to carry out building work, alterations that should require planning permission, without getting the correct permissions, makes your house illegal and almost impossible to sell later.

[DGS]

Many thanks everyone.

It is an existing 1951 construction farmhouse with water, sewage, power and telephone already connected, just needs brining into 2008!
So I can replace existing like-for-like and require an architect plus permissions for an extension/garage/swimming pool.

Excellent information. Thanks again

[Stefan]

An question that always leads to so many different answers. best thing to do is to take the plans of the house and your specifications, bring it to 3 or more builders (check their references) and aks them to count on it. Remember when you compare not only to look on the price. Is IVA included? Look on the total costs such as Pool, lansdscaping, walled or fenced in property, Air cond, alarm, Solar panel etc, etc all this adds up, so the more specifications you have the better. My oppinon about the squaremeter price (only on the house living areas for a high quality) will be minimum €850/m2 + IVA (taxes), cave could be done for €250/m2 and Terraces €170/m2. Remember to check with the Camara what are planned around your plot the next years if there are any? Finally, I do not know if you are in place while the construction is going on, if not you have another problem, to find a person that you can trust your "life" with.
Good Luck

[LondonGuy]

Hi guys,

First time post here so please forgive any ignorance on my part. Here's my question:

I'm thinking about buying a plot of land in the Estoril/Cascais area or immediately surrounding areas if it's cheaper and having a 3 bedroomed house built on it.

Can somebody please give me an idea as to:

a) the cost per square metre for the build (to a high quality with kitchen, appliances, bathroom etc etc. in that area and.....

b) Perhaps a really stupid question but if I want to build a 2 storey home, do I need to double the cost i.e. calculate the cost for the downstairs (per square metre) and then do the same again for the first floor?

c) How I would best find a "project manager" to oversee the work of the builders.

d) How long might it take to construct a home?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
LondonGuy

[Stefan]

Building costs you can only get from a quote, to say High quality is not enough. I guess could be that you will end up around 1.500 Euros/m2 (including taxes) if you keep a quality higher than avarage (what ever that is?)
This Square meter price should be based on total construction area (which include first floor)

The key here is: Take in 3 or more quotes from builders that have good references and compare (Do not go on a hunt for a cheap deal from any builder, than you ask for problem and will probably end up paying much more to fix everything after).

To get a good project manager you have to relay on recommendations, if you do not know anyone personal (check with people you know in the area and see if they can recommend someone?)

How long time? 9 - 12 Months is normal time if it is traditional construction, can be a bit shorter or longer time as well. Steel houses they can make in 4 - 5 months.

Good luck

Stefan

Originally Posted by LondonGuy

Hi guys,

First time post here so please forgive any ignorance on my part. Here's my question:

I'm thinking about buying a plot of land in the Estoril/Cascais area or immediately surrounding areas if it's cheaper and having a 3 bedroomed house built on it.

Can somebody please give me an idea as to:

a) the cost per square metre for the build (to a high quality with kitchen, appliances, bathroom etc etc. in that area and.....

b) Perhaps a really stupid question but if I want to build a 2 storey home, do I need to double the cost i.e. calculate the cost for the downstairs (per square metre) and then do the same again for the first floor?

c) How I would best find a "project manager" to oversee the work of the builders.

d) How long might it take to construct a home?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
LondonGuy